This stopped the rig sliding all the way down to the lead. I suppose we all have diffrent ways of looking at this, personaly speaking I start off with the rig about a foot from the lead.then during the fight the rig moves down to the lead, so much so that the korda sinker that I use ends up half way into the tail rubber.I think this stops the lead moving very much and so the fish is less likely to shed the hook.I am going to try fixing the bottom bead just to see if it makes a diffrence but I think having the lead swinging around will lose me more fish, we will see... Years ago when it was known as the Silt rig I discovered problems with dropping fish on that tyope of set-up, no matter what size lead I used. I have hooked several carp and lost them all. The reason you use Chod Rigs are because the Chod Rig allows you to present your bait above the silt or the weeds in order for the carp to be able to clearly see your bait. See more ideas about Fishing tips, Fish, Fishing rigs. chod rig. Clear editor. Brandon shows us a popular rig that people are using, and losing fish with! Personally i hate heli rigs as the angle of pull against the lead is all wrong while playing the fish (IMHO) and i wont use this set up unless forced into it due to lake bed conditions. I use big hooks though, 4s and 5s. instead of setting them up as a chod just fish a really short rig straight off the lead. Step 1. See more ideas about carp rigs, carp, rigs. however with such a small lead it wont make any difference if the hook is set. I've always thought lead size is irrelevant when fishing in deep silt. I fish a very weedy water (10ft deep top to bottom weed) and use clips and tubing to drop the lead on take. You can post now and register later. and that sprung to mind as I was sat thinking of a solution on the bank, it worked well as I had 2 more takes on that rig and landed both. This will stop the weight of the lead dragging the bait down further into the weed and causing it to mask around the hook point , as well as hiding the bait from sight. Mar 20, 2019 - Explore Herman's board "Fishing", followed by 146 people on Pinterest. 1oz is as light as I can go for the distance needed, using fox sr size 7 thinking of going to a 5 see if that makes a difference? Another piece of kit designed solely for zig rigs is a zig aligna kit which keeps your bait nice and straight along the hook.. Or you could try colourful bait combinations of foam and pop-ups, with black, white, yellow and red favourable picks. Jul 26, 2020 - Explore Andrew Clifford's board "Carp rigs" on Pinterest. You need to use the heaviest line you can possibly use. Size 5 stiff rigger and 4 ounce lead, and always nailed in the bottom lip. I have had a couple of exchanges with people who feel the chod rig trumps the PVA bag and if they could only fish with one rig for the rest of their days it would be the choddy. Are you fishing your lead straight onto your mainline? Even better tie your leads on then you dont have to worry about the lead when playing the fish. 03-08-2011, 18:33. This may help reduce the number of fish lost if hooked fish tend to race towards snagged areas or … samcfc, August 12, 2011 in UK Rig Tying. I felt that the fish is pulling at an angle that is not natural to the mainline, i.e. Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.2 Copyright © 2020 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved. Brandon shows us a popular rig that people are using, and losing fish with! STOP using this rig! bottom baits , balanced baits etc with various length hooklengths usually produce the odd bite or two . Unless the silt is really deep and you simply don't have any choice, then a pendant or inline lead with a longer hooklink is often far better. Dropping the lead whilest using leadcore? Although a Chod rig can be used when fishing for most species of fish it is predominantly known for its use by anglers when carp fishing over weedy or silty bottom lakes. Yeah I know, I don't even know why I wrote what I did. Since then as much as possible I avoid Helicopters of any sort, much preferring a more "standard" set-up. Are the fish simmos by any chance? There are very few instances when you would ever use less than 15- or 20-pound test line on a spinnerbait. A disturbing aspect offering carp fishing in France on a commercial basis is the numbers of carp each year that end up dragging leaders and leads around the lake because carp anglers use unsafe carp rigs. Hey (Senko) Skipper, Brendon, is all about sharing knowledge of fishing! I think Ginster is right, probably the hook pattern, i use leads from 1oz up to 4oz and i cannot remember the last time i lost a fish on a chod. is this the general concencus of opinion fellas ? If you are using this rig, you are losing fish with Hey Skipper and my724outdoors.com! [QUOTE=Smoove;1730997]Dropping the lead whilest using leadcore? Once they are in they don't come out, even when using 4.5oz leads and braid. unless your fishing in weed, deep silt etc. Maybe tie the lead on with some light mono (so it can break if the fish gets snagged) with about a foot or so up to a swivel and then have your rig above this so that when playing the fish the lead will be hanging below the fish or can break off all together! By Have you increased your lead size lately? when i find it necessary to use the chod i always make sure that the bottom bead(the one nearest the lead)is 12inches away from the lead.and i make sure that the bead cannot slip down.i have used leads from 1oz-3.5oz and never had a problem. and your top bead sliding. 1 to 1.5oz lead. This hook has an out-turned eye and is perfect to use with stiff fluorocarbons. also a lighter lead will reduce the effect youve mention of the lead bouncing.... short hook lenghts and heavy leads can cause droped runs and mouth damage. hi everyone i fished my local lake for the day on Tuesday one on a chod on the line and the other on a bottom bait, after only health an hour i had run on the rod with the chod on it, the fish felt decent and after 2 minutes of playing it in it just dropped off. 16mm size 8 and 20mm size 6 never a problem i … Showing how to rig for tog fishing on the rocks.of cause there is weak point of abrasion,but this rig will be fast, easy, and cost effective way to do the job. View Full Version : dropping fish on the chod. As much as I understand the benefits of dropping the lead using chods, the thought of fish towing a length of leadcore that has nothing to make the hooklink slide off worries me too much to use it. Why take a chance on losing fish? If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. With the Silt Rig I found I had to play fish very carefully and very "slowly", almost no pressure, let them do what they wanted, and if they needed any stick to keep them away from trouble then the hook would often pull, or even worse (naked mainline) the mainline would snap as the swivel wore the line through. Due to the fact that when it plugs in, it probably feels like it weighs a tonne anyway. This means the carp angler can still manage to play a fish if a swivel lead becomes snagged up. The chances of landing that fish will have been greatly reduced due to the force just described either popping the hook out or substantially weakening your hook hold. you must use ultra sharp hooks with the chod. They tend to be pretty good at bumping themselves off if your lead is not ejected on the take. A superb 40-pounder caught on Dave’s Chod Rig following a sighting in a similar situation to the one he described 3) Wet with saliva and push top bead over the tubing.   Your link has been automatically embedded. I fish my chods short and with a nice aggressive curve. Thread a buffer bead onto your leader to cover the extension’s swivel. It will give a bit more separation between the lead and the hook.   Your previous content has been restored. The main benefit of these curved shank hooks is once the fish is hooked it can find it very difficult to spit the hook. Try a bigger buffer. As Jules mentions, do you have to use a helicopter style set-up? There’s no doubt that the chod rig has now firmly established its place in the armoury of the modern day carp angler. I use a 2.5 - 3oz for most of my chods and have never had an issue. Put the lead on a little tail using a thinking anglers ring, and fish the chod above the ring. What kind of buffer have you got between hook length swivel and lead ? Just wanted to get peoples thoughts on the Multi Rig. Hey (Senko) Skipper, Brendon, is all about sharing knowledge of fishing! See more ideas about carp rigs, carp, fishing rigs. :). The type of hook isn’t massively important, although I use a Chod-type pattern with an slightly out-turned eye. 16mm size 8 and 20mm size 6 never a problem i use 3/8oz bomb tied on with 2lb mono! Display as a link instead, × STOP the insanity! The lake bed is mainly clear silt with patches of silkweed. The chod has proved to be a very successful carp rig and has been used by many specimen anglers to catch a lot of big fish. A cast anywhere, fish anywhere rig, it gives carp anglers the ability to present a bait over any type of bottom. Tie a 2 inch loop of Power Gum through one of the swivels. if that is indeed the case , then i`m perplexed . Step 4. This will act as an emergency weak link if necessary. if the best way to stop the lead bouncing the hookholds is to have the bottom bead a foot above the lead and the lake i fish is covered with an inch or two of silkweed all over the place , what is the best way forward ? fix your bottom bead about 6" above the lead. Always use a "rotten bottom" too. How's the hooklink going to slide off should the line break? If you have that could have been a contributing factor. Chod Rig (ready tied ones are great!) So, I sliced a teardrop rig-ring onto the leadcore and then added around 6 inches of leadcore the other side, so the setup was: lead - 6" of leadcore - ring - leadcore with chod/beads - mainline. × Step 3. I've got nothing against God. The chod is Matt’s go-to pop-up presentation, one that he finds particularly useful when casting at showing fish. That may seem a bit barbaric, but I’m fishing to land them and I want to reduce the chance of losing fish, or worse still, leaving tackle in them. after reading this thread i`m now having second thoughts .... oh , and before anybody asks WHY it has to be the choddie then its simple . just asking. CURVE The shape of the rig is important to maximise your chances of hooking and landing a fish. Recommended Posts. Stiff Rigger Hooks. It just could be pure chance, or positioning, but it seems that the chod rig is a useful method for combating weedy conditions. Having lost a decent fish on the chod I am tinkering with different pop up rigs. × Chod Rig Help From Team Mainline Posted by Mainline Baits, 15th November 2016. that way youd know its definately the rig. I had issues with dropping fish but solved it by: size 5 stiff rigger, 20lb bristle NEATLY tied with snell knot, big sliding ring and proper bouyany quality cork ball pops. i can't take credit for this idea, I remember seeing it somewhere (mag/dvd/here?) Although a Chod rig can be used when fishing for most species of fish it is predominantly known for its use by anglers when carp fishing over weedy or silty bottom lakes. i fished my local lake for the day on Tuesday one on a chod on the line and the other on a bottom bait, after only health an hour i had run on the rod with the chod on it, the fish felt decent and after 2 minutes of playing it in it just dropped off. Nov 26, 2020 - Explore Dariusz Barwacz's board "a Fishing - Carp rigs" on Pinterest. nash 15mm pop ups,chods between 1.2-2" long with a lovely curve always check the hook before casting to make sure its sticky sharp,may try as said having the bottom bead fixed 5-6" above the lead. Two of these losses were right near the net. near the end of the session i hooked another fish on the chod that i believed was quite small but that dropped off aswell. Now I don’t dispute that this rig is a winner in certain circles, but it does have its pitfalls as well as its benefits. broom handle rods dont help, I use the hinged stiff rig a lot on one of my waters, fishing at range. since trying the chod my buzzers dont stop wailing. A few of these are the chod rig and zig rig but I suppose these are not necessarily hair rigs but they still use the idea of attaching the bait away from the hook. When the ring swivel of your chod rig hits that lead, attached to a stiff very short hook link, the pressure is all upwards on your hook hold. These hooks are perfect to use for your chod rig. I know that a lot of anglers have issues losing fish on Choddies and I’m sure a contributory factor in this is that their bait isn’t pulling upwards enough. well the lake bottom has very thick silt and the chod presents really good on it, i might try something form atomic tackle called the chodda droppa where the leads comes off on the take, but before i try that i will try a 1oz lead, try fishing with an inline lead and a really long rig, say about 18 inches the lead will pull into the silt but hook bait will sit on top if you use a nugget of foam on the hook. I will describe it more fully in a separate blog, but basically the lead is on the end of the rig and the pop-up boilie is on a fairly short link, helicopter-style, half-way along the lead core, and trapped in that position by a rubber bead either side of the swivel. It's his fan club I loath. I know its nothing to do with me as never had this problem before I started using chods. By carpmansam, February 17, 2009 in Session Carp Fishing. Paste as plain text instead, × see if that makes any difference. i dont know why i am losing them as im using a 1.5oz lead and a size 6 choddy with a 15mm pop up. A short leader provides for good striking but can scare off a cautious fish. im having one toners and hitting into the fish but end up loosing more than i land? If so the lead is probably bouncing around directly in his face moving the hook more than a longer rig would. Step 2. When using corkball pop-ups, or HighLites, I don’t lose any fish on Choddies. Tired of losing fish? Only a personal thing and agreed it would not effect hooking but with a 15mm bait I would use a size 8 hook and ensure it was sticky sharp. You want to create a rig that will allow the hook bait to sit on top of the weed, so the hook link needs to be slightly longer than the weed strands. Upload or insert images from URL. Barbed or Barbless Hooks “I can be confident that the rig is going to be fishing OK as long as I can feel the lead down. the lighter the lead the less it will plunge into the silt!! luckily for my boy , one of the landed fish was a 25+ mirror but i initially blamed a dodgy batch of hooks . both presentations the fish would be towing the leader, idiot. Is there some benefit to going that light? anyone else have any issues with loosing fish on the chod? The chod has proved to be a very successful carp rig and has been used by many specimen anglers to catch a lot of big fish. any advice on what could be going wrong? that way youd know its definately the rig. The pressure applied by the lead onto the lead clip when pulled allows the lead to drop from the line. How buoyant are the pop-ups your using, as if the rigs leaning over it won't be as half as a effective as one bolt upright on a nice curve, which will spin more far more effectively.   Pasted as rich text. How's the hooklink going to slide off should the line break? Moreover, a short leader may drag the bait under the silt and algae together with the weight. The DF Rig Uncovered The Big Interview - Jake Taylor A Method For Big'Uns - Dave Finn Tackling a New Lake - Elliott Gray Chod-Rig Tips - Phil Buckley Big-Fish Rigs - Oz Holness The Big Interview - Ian Huntington Tiger Tactics - Adam Penning Size 5 Stiffer Rigger is what I use for 16/15mm baits or a size 8 for smaller baits. JohnPower. I use 3-4 inches stopping the lead hitting the fishes face firstly and secondly letting the lead drop the hook in further. Personally i think chods and hinge stiff rigs give the best hook holds and i find hook pulls very rare whilst using them. my last 24hr session last week saw my son and i hook into 20 or so fish but only 6 were landed , half a dozen of the lost fish actually saw the hook pull at the net. Zamm, why so light? I use chod and hinged stiff rigs a lot and the hook holds are very good. I’ve seen the rig work effectively with standard straight eyes by using a length of silicone tubing to create a kick over. Top carpers from the Mainline Team give their advice and tips for fishing the ever popular Chod Rig... Q: I have been using the Chod rig on a 4ft leadcore leader. see if that makes any difference. from Rig Board 03:56 Stu Cobb talks about the benefits of the Naked Chod rig, which gives the option of fishing this popular silt set-up direct to the mainline; ideal for venues where leadcore leaders are banned. Buffer sleeve/bead. If I'm trying to fish to small clear areas and I want to be more accurate, then I’ll move the top bead down to 2 feet from the bottom bead, so the rig sits closer to where I felt the lead drop. if your still confused then why dont you look on youtube or the like and type in jim shelley/chod and see how he ties it,mr shelley is not everyones cup of tea but when it comes to fishing the chod he is the chodfather. Also as light a lead as you can get away with, usually 1oz... i think maybe the lead is hitting the bottom as the fish dive, reeleasing tension and causing the hook do drop out ( providing its barbless), is there really any need to use the chod? First off cut a 14 inch length of leadcore and splice a swivel to each end. Never Give in, always believe in your Ambitions and Dreams for they will come true. use a smaller hook, im currently using a size 10 with the chod. If you are using this rig, you are losing fish with Hey Skipper and my724outdoors.com! When using a buzzbait, go with a heavy line. Evening, I am fishing a day only water with a barbless rule and found casting at showing fish to be quite successful. I use the smallest lead possible, don't like the idea of a 3oz lead bouncing around under the mouth. If you're fishing heavy cover, or muddy water, always go up to 25- or even 30-pound test line. Use the chod rig with a stiff leader made of rigid materials like monoline or fluorocarbon. A fundamental aspect of carp fishing is the safety of our beloved quarry - the carp. May help. the problem with chod rigs is the lead is to close to the hook,try using a smaller lead. For anyone who doesn’t know, chod is the term given to leaf… Having experimented with Choddies using bottom baits and wafters, you do seem to have the odd fish go astray.   You cannot paste images directly. Tight fitting top bead that can slide under moderate pressure when wet. Your chosen lead (use as light a lead as you can get away with to reach your target). the lead is at the end, and the fish pulling at approximately 90degrees instead of you pulling directly to the fish. Deepest ,darkest,Grays...a quiet little hamlet , nestling on the banks of the Thames .NOT. STOP the insanity! Quick Clip for the lead to sit on. Hook pulls could be caused by the jolt of the lead pulling up against the swivel ? oh and by the way it was terry hearn who first suggested you drop the lead on a chod, so when you are using a lead clip how is the hooklink going to come off then either? I find the hinged still link fished as a running lead is giving as good catches as the chod and i dont lose fish on it. Regarding the length of silicone, the bigger the hook, the longer the silicone tubing. Tired of losing fish? “Sample zig rig hook baits” Plenty of anglers like using colourful foam or pop-ups when zig fishing, and these are all great choices. Baiting needle to aid putting the beads on to the leadcore. Within this section I’ll give you a quick run down of the most popular hair rigs and what fishing situations they are best used within. STOP using this rig! To ensure the rig is safe, the bead should be lose enough to be pushed off in the event of a crack off. It doesn’t matter if I am fishing over chod, silt, gravel, or light weed, the rig chod … Lost a few last year fishing leadcore, small lead and chods so switched over to clips with much more success. i`ve been under the impression that the chod rig is most effective with the bottom bead fished at the estimated depth of the "chod" ? 4) If you’re are fishing over thick silt, push the silicone tubing and top bead a few inches up the leader to … if your losing fish your hooking them on the edge of the lips u need more movement on the rig either use hinge stiff link or thinking anglers do double ringed swivels which add another inch of movement to lift up in the fishes mouth. near the end of the session i hooked another fish on the chod that i believed was quite small but that dropped off aswell. Old fishermen never die, they just smell that way. instead of setting them up as a chod just fish a really short rig straight off the lead.
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