I have been making custom clubs for over 5 years. Has anybody ever bought anything off of worldgolfsupplies on ebay? I found out that the clubs were shipped from China and then I confronted them with why they sell counterfeit clubs to unsuspecting peoplethey didnt want to answer my question but did tell me that they would fully refund my purchasenot too smart because I had already denied the charges. The overall size of the heads are slightly smaller than the CB-501s while shaped a bit more boxy and squared. I wonder if they just suck? Look through our new arrivals to find used golf clubs online or Japanese golf clubs for sale. They also have two stores in Michigan that look legit. The clubs are totally unplayable!!! Most of these are the top retailers, but not Maruman and Tourstage, yet this list seems to be common amongst all the questionable sites you have listed. I told the seller and he told me I couldnt afford good irons and I was wrong lol. They have a lots of positive feedback on e bay. is sunogolf.com real stuff please i need feedback. Hitting the ball pure feels sensational - soft, crisp, without a single extra vibration in your hands. A friend just bought some Calaway clubs ( not sure which model) from this site at a VERY good price which makes me think its a scam. They have uk contact details and say they are authorised distributors. Sunny13:26:07 Do you believe it? It doesnt make sense to me. http://www.onlinegolf.co.uk/. How about $850. * 6 other web sites are hosted on this server. Great job all! anyone have any feedback for an ebay seller itaintpretty? I am thinking of placing an order for a Ping K15 on luckygolf18.com, the price seems too good to be true. By For Luis. I repeat from previous posts, the world-wide web is awash with counterfeit clubs. Costco would have profit through volume, not through mandated markups. you cant tell me a tp driver costs 500 bucks to make but a standard tm driver will still net a profit on sale next year for 150. hi everyone, btw sorry for my bad english (im a french canadian from quebec) ive just purchase a nike sq dymo driver on the web and the driver has not aiming mark on the crown (the two little triangle ) do you think its a fake ??? Fake : ( all REAL!!! I also read quite a few good reviews about the company. Anything else, please feel free to contact us. and found the company does not exist. I was looking at buying another iron set on ebay and I found a couple different listings on there that are selling ping and taylormade iron sets that seemed ridiculously low. Yeah you really have to be careful DGodons. They are very good, extremely creative and incredibly hardworking. the typhoon in guangzhou. I didnt think it would be dumb question to ask based on the photos, especially regarding the differences with the numbers and MC-501 Logos. Other online retailers have them for 799. Registrant FAX Ext. They are praying on suckers who type into their Google search engine words like golf clubs, bargain, discount, wholesale, wharehouse, online, rockbottom, cheap, super cheap, extra super cheap, really extra super cheap.. You have got to be joking about golfonlinewholesale.com. Bill FAX Ext. TaylorMade's global enforcement efforts are extensive and include a variety of areas such as working directly and collectively with local, federal and international agencies and actively participating in coalitions to rid the marketplace of fakes and help keep it clean for the golf consumer who is looking for the high quality merchandise that or does anyone know of a inexpensive decent set and or single clubs? I was looking into buying a set of titleist ap2 irons from sunogolf.com. That was apparently when they ripped off the logo from somewhere else to make their website. i am also trying to get my money back let me know how you do.they say you can send I just don't want a member here to get caught with a set of $1000+ counterfeit irons. And if you dont think these fakes are showing up in the big retail storesguess again. That day I became an immediate Miura 'snob'. Hi, just found this site and it is very informative. (dba Rock Bottom Golf) Your genuine help will be greatly appreciated, thank you. yeah sorry wondering if mine are legit now . No problem as I can see. Has anyone had any experience with this site? Clue five: Dont look at the pictures of golf clubs. 2420 E Hennepin Ave About the the 13th hole, my hands started to sweat profusely (I usually play without a glove) and I began to have a hard time holding onto the club I had to put on a glove to finish the round. Bill FAX: +86.05946277277 We want you to get the most out of your Hope this helped someone. PS Sorry I took so long to come back on this Paypal disute but I didnt think my original comments had been shown. Province/State : WG In the meantime, I have found 8 other auctions on Ebay for just Talormade clubs which I am sure are from the same seller even though the email address is different for most of them. : I would start from here and then follow the steps this website has posted. Notice on the Scotty Cameron pictures below that the milling on the face is much different. They have the same minimum advertising prices as us so if it is cheaper then it is too good to be true 99.9% of the time. it has been very helpful. : I have some stuff to post there that may be of interest. sale, wl Miura Irons and Wedges - GolfBox Would I be wrong in saying that they are not made in the muzuno factory? First, I want to say how sorry I am to all those individuals who did get lured into purchasing a counterfiet club(s) from the internet. OK so much for describing the difference between fakes and clones. Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com, Created on..: Wed, Aug 22, 2001 IP Location: -(-) All these companies do not deal with nonsense products and they do deserve the respect and recommendation. I havent purchased any yet, but am thinking of giving it a shot. Thomas Rath Almost all of these site have the same contact phone # 919-228-9899 Would you post a list of every one of your However, the club was obviously too heavy. Me13:25:08 Hi iv recently being searching high a low for a new set of clubs and have found several websites that offer golf clubs and stupidly low prices, and like most well i hope, I was a little suspect, did some research and have found several forums about the increase in golf equipment, some have been lucky enough to perchase a good fake, but personally who create a market for these clowns to continue! It seems way to cheap to be real. The finish is almost always different. Arrived promptly, managed to view and test the set. They take cash in brown paper bags. Intersting topic. thanks. i really need your help is tgw.com a faulty website???? These tips will help a lot of people out who didnt know to look for these things. Instead of it costing me the $465 I spent on the real one, it cost me a further $250 on the fake so $715 all up for the driver. Heads-up. simply me or does it give the impression like some of these I checked with the reviews and too many people talked about bad things some of them already pay and have never get a golf set. Gmail account for contact, not enough or to many digits in the phone number. Counterfeit Scotty Cameron. The first clue was the sound it made. How about http://www.golfclubsequipments.com? Completed transaction before finding this site but havent received clubs yet. . Its meaning has changed over the years and often has different meanings in different industries. Its wrong for us to participate. instead of 70 gms. Not a nice feeling. With sharp lines, a compact head size and a minimalist shape, MB101 irons are built for comprehensive workability and offer a purity of feel that is unsurpassed in golf. Or are they made from the Callaway or US golf brands factorys in China just to make them cheaper like most brands do these days for all different items? Yes, by the same brand I do mean this seems to be the regular list on these sites: After looking at the tremendous number of comments on this website, haw can anyone be so (expletive deleted) stupid to ask is website www. Not trying to say their fake, but if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then its probably a duck. Great customer service. shared pages like your linkedin profile, Facebook page or twitter feed? I just thought I would say that not all club makers on e-bay are looking to scam people. If I find my ping g15 driver is fake when it arrives (perfectoutdoorgame) what is the best recourse of action to get my money back. Its difficult to find experienced people about this subject, but you seem like you know what Last Updated on: 08-Jun-09, Administrative Contact: #PowerToThePlayer. The flange seems to be a standard length with a single thin sight line. A very strong rubber smell. buy them from japan from a.proper.retailer and pay up for quality. That said, aesthetically the TC-201 has more in common with the pseudo-muscle back, MC-501. MATERIAL Premium (S20C) Soft Carbon Steel FINISH Satin Chrome SPECIFICATIONS Here I come! Something told me beware immediately and I found myself here. Anyone else heard or know anything about the website? thanks, I meant ebay for that matter. ClubTest: Testing Miura's new PI-401 irons against our current gamers Thats why we could sell them at such favorable price. I just checked those 2 sites out, and they have some excellent examples of what to look for that should throw some red flags for you. But the looks were spot on. Thanks! At 2nd Swing, we get fake golf clubs traded in from time to time that are identified by our inventory. Factory-golf.com #4-#9 PW, SW and AW all for $339. For those that havew not called us before, Mike is our Customer Service Manager. Branding and lofts will be in a slightly different location on the club head. I bought a D2 Titleist online. In 2020, the largest counterfeit. We spoke to reps from every major name brand golf club company on the market and then put together a comprehensive checklist for you to use the next time you purchase something of EBAY or from any online retailer for that matter. Miura has its first official PGA Tour ambassador in Abraham Ancer, who has played the high-end Japanese club-maker's irons since 2017. The store web address is http://stores.ebay.com/bobsbettergolf, they seem OK and very responsive, any info is appreciated. When contacted they ignored the complaint refused to acknowledge or accept the problem despite sending photos and generally just stone walling or not answering emails that may implicate them in accepting responsibility. thanks! Postal Code : 606550 The world wide web is a jungle of no-names, no-faces where thieves and counterfeiters thrive and prosper at the expense of gullible suckers like yourself. Driver PRGR Super Egg, Honma 717 3 wood, Titleist 915 19*, Itobori iron set and wedge set, Itobori putter. I sent an email out the next day to both Talormade and the seller. If only you could learn to be sarcastic youd probably be even nicer. Bill Street2: In this case Edin Watts are selling a Taylormade AeroBurner Mini Driver 2015 for $279.99 which to me looks like round about the same as other legit websites and shops so makes sense. Needless to say, I wont be buying from some Chinese storefront. They wont even deliver the missing orderDont even approach this guys! I have hope that they will get my money back, we shall see. And iron setsshewwww fogetaboutit! I was waiting to see another new set to compare, but they are hard to come by here in Germany. I was looking at buying some titleist ap2 irons from this website, but like everyone else, am questioning the sites authenticity. The searching I had found was mixed, some great and some bad. 1) It says its based in the UK, but the Contact Us section says its located in West London . poor grammar and all but would like to know what someone elses thouhgts were. Even the torque wrench was a phonysince it didnt have a torque setting. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! The only reason I even attempted to buy clubs from them was because they were one of the only places that had a discontinued model of irons (TaylorMade Burner 2.0s in black finish) that I so desperately wanted. All clubs are made in china. They said they would answer my quirry but I doubt it. First off I just want to thank u for this blogit has really opened my eyes to this world of fake clubs. The Titleist Miura Forged Replica irons released in 1998. View the source code of the page. exists at all. Registrant Street3: The gray paint on the crown is completely different. R&D is expensive. The only thing I can add about Golfetail.com is that when I sent them an email asking if their Callaway X-20 irons would pass an inspeciton by Callaway they stated quite matter of factly that they WOULD pass an official inspection by Callaway as genuine. bought several club and never disapointed. The other store I was referring to was timetheputterman. another expensive lesson. Has anyone ever dealt with great golf sales on e bay. Not so easy when the real deal is being shipped in from all over the world, as it currently is. Go to a legit store and pay the price to get what you want and dont end up with a $180.00 paperweight. Be happy to help. I have seen many posts where people ask how to Sell Your Golf Stuff Fast so they can get the answer from here as how and what to be done before buying golf clubs. The previous information has been obtained either directly from the registrant or a registrar of the domain name other than Network Solutions. There prices seemed high compared to other legit outlets like rockbottomgolf.com, though. or by third parties who have licensed their materials to Golfskydiscount,Inc. If we take the money from the companies pockets here then well lose all that R&D money. great info mate. Nothing wrong with that. the comments say that most often they wont fake left handed clubs, which makes sense, considering the market for it, but how confident should I be? ltd. And this leaves much more room for mischief. Website set up in Oct 2011 and prices appear to be too good to be true. My friend went to the address given in Central Hong Kong Paste as plain text instead, Counterfeit Ping Grip on the left. I live in U.K. and have been searching for a new set of clubs on the internet and came across your very useful pages. Thanks. if someone can also advise on duty etc that might be charged apart from what i pay, it will be a huge help. Another way that could help everyone to see where the goods come from,before place your order just ask a question to the seller if could be possible have the goods posted by EMS or check your self at their websites at the voice shipping and if is positive that means come from china!!!! Hi I have recently found the titelist AP2 iron set that i bought from WOWgolf clubs, now http://www.cheapgolfforsale.com/ to be fake. United States, Domain Name: MYSURBUY.COM Heres an example of a golf store that sold many products & operated out of the United States (shipped straight from the factory HAHAHA). Stop asking about the possibility of counterfit clubs! they promote a Studio select Newport and its aphoto of the studio style and no way they can sell a scotty at 209.99 new when they cant sell it under 299.99 everywhere else. San, Alaska 99504 i was playing in my thursday league,hitting my driver like crap,so i asked one guy in my group if i could try his.i give it a wack, 250-270.straight.again same result.5times anyway its a nike 460 sq. Any info on this site. Email: [emailprotected] You have not answered my question and i have found the services of a very poor standard Started Thursday at 04:13 AM, By What questions should I ask? The hosel was maybe 1/16 inch shorter also. Miura does such an incredible job on finishing steps, I believe it is very obvious by just looking at the finish of the back side of the iron, let alone the sole. Heres the website and take a look for yourself at how well that worked out for them. The reply was. Any help would be appreciated. That was the first sign but it was already too late. They are out of chicago and I have had many conversations with them via their help line. Tech Name: Brandgolfclubs They work out of the U.K. and the junk they sell comes from China. Me13:27:15 Good deal Toby! They LOOK beautiful! Suno Golf yet another Chinese rip off company. There are thousands of club makers and most of them are not for the brand name companies , Most of them produce at best a poor made copy , but there are a few that make an awsome club that you could not tell apart from the ones in your pro shop . My thoughts and information is closer to 65-70%. The clubs arrived yesterday and are fake, very poor fakes at that. My daughter bid a set of X24 Callaway graphite from Empire Golf through bidding as a Xmas gift to me. Yoshitaka's infamous "Y" Grind has allowed Miura to deliver two additional offerings to the left-handed golfer. You cannot paste images directly. Free shipping throughout the world, possibly even free to moon residents. You may be aware that Titlist could soon be launching its 714 irons for 2014. Does anyone have any previous history with http://www.golfclubs-store.com/ ? United States They have several models with "forged" stamped in that location. Here is their reply: As our clubs will be directly shipped from our supplier, so we cant send the serial numbers to you. I bought a set of 09 X-Forged with 6.0 shafts and a local Callaway shop has already confirmed they are real. http://www.cobragolf.co.uk/dealer-locator. The only guys I know that get ripped off by sites like this are those that cheap out on everything in life including haircuts. Secondly, and no less important to the cause of golf club counterfeiting is the fact that so many people now touch this product or design before it is completed. I checked with this club and it seem not real original to me, because the swingweight is off the scale on each iron. All shafts and grips match and the clubs look and feel great! I dont know the reason why I cant subscribe to it. However, after a successful register on Callaways website and careful inspection of the clubs, not to mention a legit U.S. based URL and shipping site, my fears were kicked to the curb. I am still shooting in the 110 range same as my old Intech set. Thanks a lot for the help Elson.Sounds easier than going to the shop!!! Clear editor. http://www.golfetail.com. I received the message they are not fakes so again I asked them how they can sell ping online directly? center shafted. And Srixon is typically not a popular brand to counterfeit simply because they are not as popular of a brand. Tech FAX: +86.85228691896 Avoiding the colors, lines, grooves or enhanced soles that other iron makers use to draw eyes to their golf clubs. 6123319303 Fax , Technical Contact: Would appreciate your help. So I refused to do so until the made the repayement and they did. Unfortunately, the increase in golf's popularity has pushed counterfeiters to make more fake club heads, shafts, grips, golf balls, bags and headcovers. USGOLFSALE.com is another counterfiet site. Thats what these manufacturers deserve. I request any feedback from anyone who might have heard of them or had an experience. They cant give any serial number (usually on Ping 8 iron). Please dont do it. They may be legit, and some of this is older info so they may have changed their ways, but check out their Better Businesss Bureau report: (just cut and paste this link into your browser), http://www.bbb.org/chicago/business-reviews/golf-equipment-and-supplies-retail/bhm-golf-in-villa-park-il-28003382. More to come after I get them on a range and course. Counterfeit products are big business - fake Rolex watches, Gucci handbags and Prada shoes can be found easily worldwide. thanks for the tips and help. This button displays the currently selected search type. Reduce the demand and the supply will go away. I was looking at the new Taylor superfast Burner Drivers and fairway woods. Is that a business you wish to trade with or rely on? WG. Duane, Only selective Miura's have the "GENUINE" in print. Miura's newest irons are designed for mid- to high-handicap golfers. Company information: Part-Time. Golfetail was where I bought them, I won an auction for a little over $300. Thankfully I didnt spend a fortune. The worst used club buying experience I ever had was with Callaway Pre-Owned. Otherwise, you at least have to charge sales tax in the state in which your company is located. Most of the time the font lettering will be thinner on the counterfeit. They claim it is all authentic but, after reading all the above, now Im not so sure. There are some great posts here and wonderful tips! 059186988288 fax: 059186988288 Email : Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that their phone number is a Chinese phone number. I have tried and they have no address or phone #. Me13:27:27 web site, that your use of the site is at your sole risk. The colors may be off on the shaft bands or the graphics if the club has a graphite shaft. Sunny13:25:57 Hosel - absence of 'Cameron'. Has anyone seen this place before? : Nah, probably not. Great forum just wish i had researched a bit more before falling for a set of Callaways from Topgolfmall for AUD1650. Who knows what is happening to your information? this is by far the cheapest offering of this driver i have found. So they can rip off people around the world?? The clubs were not rediculously under priced but very weary now. Miura Golf - Irons How was the iron set? FWIW, they promptly removed the clubs from site and sent me a thank you. that is not my problem,just your thought IP Address: 96.9.170.27 (ARIN & RIPE IP search) Has anyone puchased any clubs from GolfDiscount.com? They are the real deal. The main reason for this is counterfeit club makers can easily take an actual serial number and stamp it onto their clubs. Fake clubs from China ChongQing I am now having dispute with them or over charging me 5Xluckily i check my bank for amount transacted and now waiting for them to cancel or face dispute. This is what TM does now but how can we be sure buying outside of a local pro shop of golf chain even TM refuses to verify online purchased clubs based on serial number registration now after checking I am certain the sticks are authentic and I am stoked as I have saved a considerable sum, but I also am very well researched. These were the soles I thought they looked good but wanted to get a 2nd opinion from everyone else. Did you take the club to an authorized retailer to check it? I am suspicious because of the great deals, and lack of info I can find on the company. I figured that too. Callaway RazrX iron set for $369!! I 19:46:51, you are talking about the whole club or just the head clientTransferProhibited If there is anything else we can help you with let us know. might take some getting use to. If any further needs, please feel free to contact us. our clubs are with the same material,same quality with the clubs made in Muzuno factory Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $17,518,000 and employs a staff of approximately 43. But the club manufacturers are not in a good spot. My advice, stick the site in your blacklist. Glad we could actually help. When I lived in the UK there was a great website called golfbidder which also has a couple of small stores so you could go in and see the clubs.